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Economic analyst Hank Fishkind is seeing some very early signs that the COVID-19 recession may be reaching its bottom, after US employment plummeted by a historic 20.2 million jobs in April.

But he says any moves toward recovery will be slow and difficult. He tells 90.7’s Nicole Darden Creston that he doesn’t expect the unemployment rates to return to pre-pandemic levels until late 2023.